Question: Is there anything logical about faith?
Athiest: Not that I can see, no logic at all.
Faith is all about having a belief in something intangible, a concept which is presented without proof to support it or its underlying premise. In the context of the question, that underlying premise is that there is a god, something which is demonstrably based on ancient, and false, pre-scientific knowledge assumptions.
It’s only because the belief in a god has been with us for so long, tens of thousands of years, and because organised religion has based its whole raison d’etre around concepts which are in deep psychological accord with the desires of so many people – that there’s more to life than we see, that we can be relieved of the troubles of our lives here on Earth when we die, that we’ll be able to meet our deceased loved ones again after we die, and so on – that the concept is still with us.
There never has been, and never will be, any evidence which can show even the remotest possibility that gods could either exist or are necessary – for that to happen, all the fundamental laws of nature would need to be broken – so any belief in them, and faith in their existence, is completely false and thus illogical. It’s little more than wishful thinking, 99 times out of 100 instigated and nurtured by familial and societal brainwashing from childhood.
Logic surely dictates that any enquiring mind opens itself up to the possibility that any form of faith needs to be challenged and evidence demanded. Why would you even want to believe in something for which that evidence, or possibility, can never be provided?
My Response: Hi. I have a question.
There are two options.
First option is this: Existence is meaningless, consciousness and awareness are relatively. They could even been termed a mistake since in this big bang exist in this option – the only explosion that ever made sense ever (or do we even make sense? Why do we even think life is special? Life/consciousness could just be a part of this very messy explosion … although science has shown that just taking 1% balance off the attributes that support life will destroy life as we know it …but I digress). Since nothing exploded and nothing came something and you are that something, then you will go back to nothing. Everything is fine no problem. No consequences of actions or decisions you take in life. No one to answer to. Everything is basically meaningless and there is no point to it.
Option two: There is a Creator and He created everything for a purpose. He created man for a purpose. He placed man here in the physical word limited by space/time He created to see if man will willingly love Him and hence worship Him out of that love. He created man – a conscious being who is aware of himself and his environment with the power to choose (something only a god should possess) and hence consequence of his choices/actions. There is a hell and a heaven. Heaven is where the Creator inhabits, hell is where the Creator took away all of His presence/consciousness/awareness. What is left is simply the absence of the Creator. All religion talks about this Creator. From the very true religion to the completely made up ones.
Option one: whatever you believe/do does not matter. Everything is meaningless. From Adolf Hitler to Jesus Christ (if He existed) all died and went into nothing. No one looses anything.
Option two: there is consequences for your choice. If you refuse the choice of God, you will end up in hell. If you accept the choice of God, you will make heaven.
Now my question: If you are logical with this option, i would like to know which one is the safest to be in?
I have some thoughts: Pride would make people choose option one still. Fear of been control which is also a form of pride (I am above been controlled) will make people choose option one. If the fear of control is towards the Creator then you dont need to explain further. But if the fear of control is towards some men who you think wants to control everything in the world, please do explain further. Dont forget religion is as old as man in their caves, alleged claim according to science, I would like know how that control affects the caveman.